SEASON 2 EPISODE 5 WITH

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How an interaction with a gorilla led to gift baskets for babies and givebacks to the environment (alt. From Gorillas to Gift Baskets)

A conversation with Our Green House Founders Pam and Mike Davis

Season 2, Episode 5

Guests: Pam and Mike Davis, founders of Our Green House

AARON KWITTKEN: Broadcasting from the 10 Hudson Square Building, home of WNYC Radio here in Soho, New York, welcome to Brand on Purpose, the podcast dedicated to uncovering the untold stories behind the most impactful purpose-driven companies.

My guests today are Pam and Mike Davis, co-founders of Our Green House, an eco-friendly baby gift basket company. Pam and Mike are college sweethearts, who were working in New York when they decided to move to a quiet Connecticut neighborhood to get away from the hectic city life. The couple with two young children wanted to provide them with safe and healthy alternatives to traditional chemical filled products, so they curated their own collection and opened Our Green House to share it with the world.

They sell everything a newborn could need, organic and eco-friendly from diapers to bottles to blankets. Our Green House is a socially conscious company in other ways as well. They consider themselves a family-first brand and they encourage their employees to work from home on their own schedules.

They also have a giveback program with their endangered animal-themed gift baskets, that’s my favorite. For every purchase of one of those baskets, they donate 5% to a matching conservation charity. Pam and Mike started their journey trying to make a safer place for their children to grow up, but their impacts gone far beyond their own home. Pam and Mike Davis, welcome to Brand on Purpose.

PAM DAVIS: Hi.

MIKE DAVIS: Thanks for having us.

PD: Thanks for having us.

AK: It’s great to have you guys in studio.

MD: Three kids, though.

AK: Three kids.

PD: Oh, yeah. Don’t forget Matt.

AK: Sorry, Matt. How old is Matt?

PD: 21.

MD: 20.

PD: Or, 20.

AK: Oh, he’ll get over it. He’s old enough. I’m sure it’s not the last time, it’s not the first time you forgot about Matt.

PD: No, we forgot about Matt a lot.

AK: Like Home Alone, McCauley Caulkin? You just forget him?

MD: It’s the third, you know.

AK: Yeah, it’s the third, right. I’m the 4th of 4, so.

MD: I’m 5th of 8.

AK: Oh, wow. Did your mom tell you that you were unplanned?

MD: That was my sister.

AK: Oh, ok. What’s her name?

MD: Cathy. All right, so Matt and Cathy cannot listen to this podcast. It’s really bad. They’re going to have to go to therapy.

PD: I was the oldest, so.

AK: Yeah, got it.

PD: I was in charge.

AK: And you still are.

PD: And I still am.

MD: She still is.

AK: I like it. So, I know we spoke off air a little earlier. I found you guys, I’m not even sure how I found you guys but I was looking for a baby gift for my assistant and I stumbled across your website and I’m like, “This is super cool.” So the intent wasn’t actually to have you on until after I made the actual transaction. And I loved the themed baby gifts because it was an educational component.

It’s what you do, but, and I know I talked about it a little bit earlier in the intro, but what really was the inspiration for this? I know you guys probably have and still have other jobs, as well, maybe not I don’t know if this is a side hustle, but it seems very real to me and it seems like a real business that’s done really well, and it’s well done I must say.

PD: Oh, that’s so nice, thank you.

MD: Yes, we have an environmental company, too. But it’s mostly Our Green House.

AK: What kind of environmental company?

MD: We go out and test houses for mold, EOCs, and their air quality.

AK: Radon?

MD: Radon.

AK: Not to digress, I live in a high radon area and I remember when we sold our first house they’re like, you have to test your well for radon. Really? Radon can live in water? I had no idea.

MD: Yes. It aerates in there.

PD: Well that’s how we started. ‘Cause we were living in Hoboken and we had our first child and we lived in a brownstone and then we became, like, aware of lead paint. And we looked around and no one was testing for lead paint. When was that, ‘94? So Mike started Willow Environmental, we lived on Willow Ave.

AK: Oh, ok. Very creative?

MD: Very, yes. I’m the ideas guy.

AK: You’re the creative? Yeah, or the practical guy.

PD: We still have willow2@aol.com, it’s very embarrassing.

MD: We still have AOL, yeah.

AK: So you have environmental backgrounds, which is helpful. And then, how did you then make the leap between an environmental background and then moving into, basically, baby gifts and products.

PD: Well, because I’m a freak.

MD: She freaked out.

PD: I freaked out. We had our 2 kids.

MD: Back then.

PD: Well, we had 2 kids. And I started…

AK: Poor Matt. Matt’s…

PD: Oh, Matt’s there, too.

MD: Well, now you’ve got to say Michael.

PD: Oh, Michael, too. The middle one. So we, like, I started to become aware of, do you have kids? You start to get scared…

AK: I do, two that I’m aware of.

PD: Do you get scared, though? Did you start to get scared or nervous about things like that could affect their health?

MD: Toxic Chemicals.

AK: I’m like the quintessential neurotic Jew, I’m constant anxiety, I’m constantly fearful of everything, so yeah, for sure.

PD: That’s me. So, yeah, that just increased with each kid I became, like, oh my god, this is going to hurt them.

AK: You know it’s supposed to go the other way. You’re supposed to just chill after the first one.

PD: No, I’m still not chill. I’ll never chill. So, I would be, like, I would, all of a sudden, realize cleaners were dangerous. So I’d be like bringing home this bottle of non-toxic cleaner and I’d be like, “Mike, look, this is so great! Look what I bought,” and he’d be like, “Yeah, whatever.” And I’d be like, “No! No!” And then I’d find out about candles and be like, “Oh! Look at this, now we don’t have toxins in the air and all that.” And so…

AK: You mean while you’re feeding your kids hot dogs.

PD: No, but the kids, actually one time I was in the other room because I wasn’t the best monitor. And I could hear them having a little tea party in the kitchen and i'm like, oh, that’s so cute. They’re like three and two and doing a tea party. And then I walked in the kitchen and Megan was serving Michael dishwasher liquid as the tea.

AK: I was going to say. Oh, that’s antifreeze, not…

PD: No, it was bad.

MD: So we immediately got a nanny.

PD: No we didn’t. It was bad, so, as I freaked out and I started trying to tell everyone I knew about this, and no one was really listening to me, but, he, Mike, finally said that aha thing like, “Why don’t you just sell what you keep talking about?” And then…

AK: And what year is this?

PD: 2003.

AK: Wow. Okay that’s a long time ago, actually.

PD: Yeah. The company’s changed a lot.

AK: And the internet wasn’t what it is today, in terms of your ability to get up and running very quickly.

PD: No. Well, although we did. We got up in three months. Because you know when you have an idea and it’s just like you have to do it and it has to get done. We just like, all of a sudden, we had a store filled up and we started selling.

MD: We started selling. We don’t really sell much of that anymore. It’s all different.

PD: Yeah, we were selling encapsulate paints. We were selling dehumidifiers.

AK: Stuff to make the environment for your children healthier versus products that they could use that you knew also wouldn’t harm them.

PD: Yes.

MD: And it came more from the environmental side.

AK: Got it. Because that’s your background. That makes a lot of sense.

PD: Yeah, so it’s the hard core, like, the paints, we were selling flooring. We were selling all that the materials that keep a…

MD: No VOC paints and stuff like that.

AK: What is it, BPA plastics?

PD: Yeah, that term was just coming out then. No one even knew about that then.

AK: No. At one point, was the pivot slow? When were you like, “Oh, maybe we should move into gift baskets and toys and trinkets and move more towards thematic endangered species awareness and things that you’re selling now.”

PD: Well, that evolved. Because what happened is, we had the store for ten years and it was great and we had a lot of those products too.

AK: And did you have a physical store, too, or was it only online?

PD: No, we had a physical, yeah, ten years.

AK: Where?

PD: In Sandy Hook.

AK: Ok.

PD: Yeah, we had a physical store and back then, we had to educate people. So, I can remember, we put little note cards around next to the products and BPA was one of them. Like this is why you want a glass baby bottle. Or we would write cards that would say, this is what organic cotton means, no pesticides. ‘Cause people actually had no clue, nor did anyone care.

AK: Well this is before or after An Inconvenient Truth, and the whole, you know.

PD: Was it right around it?

MD: Right around the same time, right? Yeah.

AK: Unfortunately, even today, people are questioning all this and I can’t understand why, because science is science, but that’s for another show. But, I imagine, so the environment, no pun intended, then, was still pretty uneducated. People are still learning how to use the power of their purchases.

MD: Yes.

PD: And we we’re learning. And we’d have some customers that would come in that were so far ahead of us and they’d just tell us. We’d just soak in all their knowledge and then at the same time we were turning around and giving workshops like cloth diapering, natural cleaners. We were doing Earth Day events, and all that stuff. So that’s what we were doing back then. And then, it changed because all of a sudden, like most stores around the country, there were some big, a big, online marketplace that came into play, and…

AK: Are you talking about Amazon or EBay?

PD: Ummmm, Amazon.

AK: Got it.

PD: I mean, I’ll order from Amazon. Get that, whatever I need the next day. That’s great. And nothing against them, but the term eco-friendly or sustainable, because as widespread as it was which is great, it was available for everyone. It became very watered down, and…

AK: Right. There was a ubiquity to it, but it also became commoditized and appropriated.

MD: Yes.

PD: Yes, and you didn’t necessarily know that something was really eco-friendly.

AK: Anybody can say whatever they want.

MD: Eco-friendly bleach.

PD: Yes, exactly.

AK: Yeah, that’s insane.

MD: Yeah.

PD: So it was stuff like that, and then, it was sad because we saw a lot of our small vendors that had started out because they were part of the first movement, and then they all disappeared. And then the bigger companies took over. So, in answer to your question, did I take over…

AK: You needed to change. A lot of companies would have just said, all right, well it was a nice run. We’re just going to move onto something else. But, you kept the company, you kept the spirit behind it.

PD: Yes.

AK: And you just changed the product line.

PD: Yes.

AK: That takes courage.

PD: Yes.

AK: And vision.

PD: Mike has vision.

MD: I’m the vision.

AK: Yeah, well yeah, well you named Willow, I mean that’s genius, right?

PD: That was genius.

MD: I came up with…

PD: Oh!! Yeah!

MD: I came up with Our Green House, too.

PD: You did come up with Our Green House. That was a good one.

AK: Yeah. Simple’s good. You can remember it. Yeah.

MD: We still get calls from people thinking we’re a florist.

AK: Yeah. You’re headquartered in Sandy Hook?

PD: Yes.

AK: And how many staff do you have?

PD: We have between ten and twenty.

AK: So it’s small but you appear much larger than you are online.

PD: Yeah.

AK: Which is the beauty of online.

PD: Yeah, we’re growing, which is nice. We like, kind of, redirected to the gift baskets probably the last two years and since then, it’s really taken off which is exciting for us.

AK: Have you thought about doing a subscription box?

MD: We talked about it. There’s a lot out there.

AK: I only ask because a guest I had on earlier, Coastal Co. And whether it’s like, we use Barkbox, Birchbox, all these, especially for a growing young family, it sounds kind of interesting, right? It sounds like something you might be able to try.

MD: Yeah.

PD: Yeah.

AK: As opposed to a one and done think right?

PD: No, it’s on the list for sure but what we created is unique. I don’t know of anyone else that has it. We created, it’s called Make your own Gift Basket. And it’s very interactive. We had it developed and you can, so it’s like four easy steps. You pick your containers, then you pick your items. You pick whatever basket you’re going to use. And then you pick your stuffed bear, your pacifier, your glass bottle. And you pick your…

AK: I think I might have gone with the turtle? Was there a turtle? I can’t remember.

MD: Is that a pre?

PD: You did a pre probably.

AK: I did a pre. I was quick and lazy.

PD: ‘Cause if it was the…no, so then we have lazy. And then we have, yeah. It’s mostly women, actually.

AK: There’s lazy and then there’s thoughtful. I’m somewhere in between, skewing more towards lazy I think.

PD: So then you pick your ribbons and then you write your note and you can actually see your gift basket right before so you see what we’re gonna send out and then we package it all up and send it out.

AK: And where are you sourcing all of your stuff. Different suppliers, right?

MD: Yeah.

AK: Vendors, suppliers…

MD: I mean, we’ve gone to trade shows. People contact us now. We were in India. We were looking at stuff. Pam was in Africa.

AK: And, are you requiring your suppliers and your vendors to meet certain thresholds and criteria? Sounds like you guys are very buttoned up and very serious about who you’ll do business with and who you won’t do business with.

PD: Oh, yeah. Well first of all, their values, like their deep values, have to align with ours. So we take a look at that. And then we like things that are obviously sustainable, and good for the planet, and organic whenever possible. And now, we’ve moved into fair trade which is like the, what we love, I mean, we can impact more communities around the world.

AK: Sure, sure. And, when Trump threatens with tariffs and things like that, does that impact your business at all?

PD: Hmmm…no.

AK: Not really.

PD: Not really.

MD: Not really. Not yet, anyway.

AK: Yeah. And hopefully not ever.

MD: Yes.

AK: Right?

PD: Right.

AK: And how did you pick the causes? Is it more like personal passion things, or?

PD: Well we started with the endangered species because I went to Africa, and I got to go up and see the gorillas. So, it was so cool. Like, beyond cool.

AK: I have a friend from school who recently did that, and he’s also a photographer. And his Instagram feed is ridiculous now.

PD: It’s ridiculous. I mean, you’re right next to them. I mean, a gorilla got up and touched me.

AK: And they’re huge.

PD: Huge!

AK: Right.

PD: Yeah. He, we were sitting there photographing them, and he stood up and the guide said keep your head down and thank god I had practiced with Matt before we went, because Matt was in the living room and I said, pretend you’re a gorilla and charging at me.

AK: That wasn’t hard for you, right?

PD: No, that was my son!

AK: Oh! Sorry. The son you forgot earlier.

PD: And he just kept…

AK: So now, he’s suddenly important.

PD: He’s very important. He trained me. So he taught me, he said, you’re not ready for this, Mom. But, so the gorilla did come towards me and actually touched me. Like, brushed across from me so it was very cool.

AK: I think I’d be gorilla meat. I don’t know, I’d be scared I think.

PD: I was scared. I did push my daughter down, but, that’s another story.

MD: That’s another one, too.

AK: So you got in front of her, to protect her. Oh, you pushed her out of the way or in front?

PD: No, I couldn’t even stand up. She’s much younger so I just lifted on her shoulders.

AK: I see, uh-huh.

MD: You don’t have to be faster than the gorilla, just Megan.

AK: That’s right. My brother-in-law and I once went for a run with my sister-in-law who’s significantly slower. And we were like in a part of Florida that was infested with alligators. And we know that they’re going to go for the slow ones. So that’s why we used to invite her on the run. It makes sense, right? Same thing as swimming, right?

MD: That’s right.

AK: Bring a knife with you to stab the person next to you so the shark goes after them. So you survive.

MD: That one I didn’t think of.

AK: Yeah, I’ve got a whole list of things that are survival tips.

PD: Oh like the eel. When we were with the eel and stuff in the scuba boat.

MD: Yeah. We have a lot of these stories.

AK: Yeah, it makes for a good relationship, right? So what’s it like working together as husband and wife?

MD: We get along.

PD: Say that again. Say it again.

AK: Do you want me to turn her mic off, or are we good?

MD: It’s been, what, 37 years?

PD: We met at 18 and 19.

AK: Wow.

MD: Well, married 29.

AK: I was going to say, you guys are…

MD: Married 29.

PD: We look young.

MD: Met at 18 and 19.

AK: Wow.

PD: Yeah, we met really young and so we’ve worked out a lot of kinks. But there’s good days and bad days.

MD: Like everything.

AK: Well, I was saying when we were off air earlier that when I started my agency, my wife was the controller, and jokingly she still is the controller.

PD: Always say that.

AK: Always say that. And thankfully, we did different things. And I imagine you guys do different things as well. Because, if there’s a lot of overlap and we did the same thing, we would have been done. But, to be honest, I mean, we curse each other, she quit many times, I fired her many times and eventually she quote unquote retired.

PD: Well, the first Christmas or holidays that we were, we got really busy with the online, like really, really busy and I was like, Mike, you know, I was shipping myself back then, I had like, one or two other people helping me.

AK: You shipped yourself? That’s weird.

PD: No, I was shipping (inaudible). I was trying to get out of there. She tried to ship me. So, I was like, Mike, can you come help me, like being all nice. Well, apparently I was very bossy according to him and I don’t remember what I said.

MD: You told me I used too much tape on the box.

PD: So, instead of being mature and finishing the job, he just walked out on me and I remember, we both stopped at that moment and went, “Oh my god, now what?” Like, it’s both of our businesses if we don’t ship. So he came back to work the next day and since then we were like, “Oh Mike, do you mind getting that box and, like…”

MD: It works much better this way.

PD: And you’re much nicer to me. Is there anything I need? And so we figured out a way to work together.

AK: It’s hard. It’s very challenging, I give you guys a lot of credit. And you’ve been at it, then, what 16 years? In terms of the business itself.

MD: Yeah.

PD: And raising the kids and doing all that.

MD: And we still have the environmental side, so.

AK: Oh, you still have the Willow business.

MD: Yeah.

AK: That’s right.

PD: Yeah, but it’s good ‘cause we know, like I know if he’s working on something or stressed then I pick up the pieces and he’ll calm me down if…

AK: And vice versa.

PD: Yeah.

AK: Right. And how much do you think you’ve donated, have you kept track of that since the beginning? No idea? Sounds like probably a lot.

PD: We’ve donated, yeah, it’s growing each time, so we’re hoping to donate more and more as we go along.

AK: So, it’s endangered species.

PD: Yeah, right now we have Save the Elephants, Gorillas, Seas Turtles, Whales.

MD: Pandas.

AK: Ladybugs.

PD: Yeah, pandas. We tried the bees for a while.

MD: We were going to do bees.

AK: Ladybugs are technically protected.

PD: Yeah.

AK: You can’t like, even though you’re tempted with the vacuum, go (slurp noise). You can’t do that. You’re not allowed. Yeah. They’re cute though, ladybugs are cute.

PD: Yeah, they’re good luck, too.

AK: They’re good luck, they’re cute, you do like all sorts of plush stuff with them, right?

PD: Yeah, I guess.

AK: Maybe not. I’m not employable with your company clearly.

PD: But, the bees. We did try the bees for a while.

AK: How come the bees didn’t work out?

MD: No one wanted the bees?

PD: No, it just wasn’t as popular. I think most people want the elephants and the whales are really popular.

AK: Didn’t get a lot of buzz.

PD: But we’re launching…

AK: Sorry.

PD: AHHH!

AK: Dad joke, yeah.

PD: We’re launching in the fall, which we’re excited, we’re putting together a home basket for someone’s housewarming or new home and we want to give back to Habitat for Humanity.

AK: Oh, nice.

PD: Yeah. So that’ll be good, so, we’re just putting it together now. We had, like, a local potter made a mug and we had Turkish towels and cutting boards.

AK: So, to date, I guess that’s new for you because now you’re getting more into, kind of, human social issues. Even though the environment has to do with humans as well, but for a while though, you’d been really focused on animals and endangered species.

PD: Right. Right. Just think about it. If someone puts, if they choose as one stuffed animal, and puts it in a basket. And say, it’s an elephant. And you just think, ok, that elephant was hand knit by rural women in Kenya that were providing for their community. And in their using their skills that are part of their community so you’re not changing anything. And then, that same elephant is made form organic cotton, which is sustainably grown by the farmers. Then that same elephant is put in the thing so we give back to Save the Elephants. And then it’s good for the baby because it’s organic cotton and safe and adorable.

AK: That the baby can chew on it and nothing bad is going to happen.

PD: Yeah, exactly. So it’s like when you start to break it down you’re like, oh my gosh, like, every time we make a gift basket or come up with one, they’re just so meaningful and great so that when someone gives that they know they’re giving something very special.

AK: Do you tell them that story? Does the customer see that journey or do you weave that narrative in that you just described?

PD: We do, I mean, we attach a card with a circle showing the full circle of how it goes from the artisans all the way around to the giver and the environment and everything. But we’re trying to come up with ways to portray it even more so that people really know.

AK: And how do you get the word out? Honestly, I can’t remember how I stumbled, it was obviously key word search, and personally, and for obvious reasons I try to work with companies that share my values. Especially, if I know that there’s no compromise to the quality of the product. Even if I know that there was a little bit of compromise, I’m willing to accept that in order to have the giveback, right? But I can’t remember how I found you, for the life of me.

PD: Probably through Google. Yeah, Google, that’s been our challenge is getting the word out there. I mean the customers that find us, luckily more and more recently, have been corporate accounts.

MD: Corporations, so.

PD: And I think they want to, yeah.

AK: That’s great.

PD: And I think what they’re realizing is they want to change what they’re giving instead of something that’s plastic.

MD: Cheeseboard, or something.

PD: Yeah, but now they’re giving these gifts and they’ll email me and say, this aligns with what our company wants. We’re really good. Like if someone makes a gift basket, we send them photos. If you were to actually…

AK: For myself.

PD: Be motivated to do the make your own gift basket, what we would do is we would send you photographs so that you could see the gift that was going off to your assistant so you’re part of it so that they get the pictures, too.

AK: What other social issues that might be more human-centered, not that these aren’t, what’s next? What are you thinking that you’d like to pivot into? I mean, there’s probably a list of 30, but.

PD: Yeah, it’s giving back more and then more connections with people around the world. We want to travel and meet all these artisans and meet these people and really just feel like a connection. I think it’s all about connections at this point. We’re just newly empty nesters, so, our last…

AK: Congratulations.

PD: Yay! We have a lot more time together.

AK: Yeah. A lot quieter in the house now, right.

PD: It’s so quiet.

MD: So you’ll have to have us back in like, 6 months.

PD: So we have someone to talk to.

AK: Yeah, it’ll be like a therapy session. My oldest is about to go off to school, so, in a week, less than a week? But who’s counting, right? It’s like six days.

MD: The first one, yeah, that’s hard.

PD: The first one’s sad.

MD: They’re all sad.

PD: No, we cried over all of them. I cried over all of them.

AK: It’s tough.

PD: It is tough.

AK: And it goes by fast.

PD: Well, that’s the thing, too. It means that it’s going by fast for us, too.

AK: Yeah, I’m not as worried about that.

PD: You’re not? Then I need to talk to you about that.

AK: Yeah, I mean, I might be when I’m where you are.

PD: ‘Cause I’m older? That was not nice.

AK: Poor Matt. What’s Matt up to these days.

MD: Matt’s a senior in college.

AK: Ok, close? Not so close?

MD: He’s at University of Connecticut.

AK: Oh, nice. Ok.

MD: And the other two are out.

PD: One’s in the city. She works at Caviar. Or it just got bought by Doordash.

AK: Oh, fun.

PD: And then our other son works in Boston at Inside Tracker.

AK: Oh! I’ve used Inside Tracker.

MD: Oh really?

AK: Yes. Inside Tracker, as in the blood marketing?

PD: Yeah.

MD: Yeah.

AK: So, I always digress and sometimes regress so but, they changed their name for like a hot second, realized that was a terrible fucking idea and then they went back to Inside Tracker. Inside Tracker’s a great name.

PD: And then they have the tagline, A selfie from the Inside. Which so perfect.

AK: Awesome, yeah. I used them a number of years ago, I made the mistake of using them while I was training, so I was deprived, but it’s good to know, even in a state of training where you’re deficient. But it actually gave me more knowledge to think about what I’m actually putting into my body, how often, but also for what goal, for what purpose. And in fact, I had a company, I don’t know if you listened to the podcast with Care/of, they’re a vitamin company.

PD: Yes.

AK: It’s a very cool one. The reason why, besides back to my wife told me to do it, the reason why I subscribed to Care/of is because originally I noticed using Inside tracker I was deficient in certain areas. And you go into CVS or whatever, no offense to CVS or Walgreens, but it’s like completely overwhelming and it just seems so easy, so that’s cool.

PD: That’s really cool, too. So that’s where we’re at. We’re at a different stage. So, now our concentration is finally, it was always the business and immersed but you know, raising three kids…

MD: We call it chain volunteering.

PD: We did all that local community, that was our, small, which is fine, which is good. It was what we needed to do then, and relationships with people in our town and all that. And so, now, like, we just have so much we want to get done.

AK: Right, right. But you have a great base and platform from which to build.

MD: Ummhmmm.

PD: Yeah.

AK: And when does the Habitat fro Humanity product…

PD: September.

AK: September, ok. Does it start local at first because I know they’re very locally driven even though they’re a very nationally driven organization.

PD: Yeah, we’ll start local. And then we can see.

AK: Ok, great. So, housing, what about homelessness, anything like that?

PD: Yeah, so there’s so many, we could do so many, I mean, we just got to pick what aligns with, cause also when people come to purchase, they have different views of what they want and what they just giving out some options. You can’t do everything. I mean, you can’t.

AK: And you guys are self-funded? Did you take any money?

PD: No.

MD: No.

PD: We’re self-funded still.

AK: Amazing.

MD: Love to take money.

AK: Yeah. I’ll find someone for you.

PD: Thank you.

AK: Yeah, I meant growth capital of course, but, that’s awesome. So, well, thank you for coming on, it’s great having you guys in studio, and just tell our listeners, how do we find Our Green House?

PD: It’s ourgreenhouse.com. And it’s our, O-U-R.

AK: At least you didn’t say it’s www. So here’s the thing, I’ve had people half your age on the show start with www.

PD: Would you stop with the age?

AK: You mentioned it, I did not mention it. It’s so funny cause they’re so young and it’s like, people have AOL addresses and it, oh that’s right, you have an AOL address, too.

PD: We do.

MD: We do have that. And we have an Instagram, right?

PD: Oh yeah. I have an Instagram, @ourgreenhouse.

AK: They just call it Insta, now.

PD: Insta.

MD: Ohhhhh.

PD: And I’m on instastories, too. My kids are like, oh god.

AK: Are you snapping, as well?

PD: Oh, no. I do the stories but that’s very progressive.

AK: That’s good, that’s a good start.

PD: And I’ve learned that you can’t say K to your kids, they think you’re mad. You have to say kk.

AK: Right, kk is happiness.

PD: Right, and k is…

AK: Don’t ever write in all caps.

PD: Oh yeah. That’s like yelling. I knew that.

AK: Right. The one benefit of having kids in our age range, right? So mine are 18 and 15, you’re really kind of up on all the lingo, and it’s kind of funny. And some of this stuff just comes back, right?

PD: Yes.

AK: So, the other day I was texting one of my son’s friends and I said, oh I got you guys all bacon egg and cheeses and their response was, WORD. Or, that’s so dope and they don’t realize that that existed well, well before them. Even before my generation.

PD: And they think they’re cool.

AK: They think they’re super cool, right. So I think that’s kind of funny, but yeah, all the expressions are kind of hilarious. Great to have you guys on. Thank you for coming in studio.

PD: Thank you.

MD: Yeah, thank you.

AK: And, ourgreenhouse.com.

PD: Yes.

AK: O-U-R.

PD: O-U-R.

AK: greenhouse.com.

PD: Yes.

AK: Go there and…

PD: And willowenvironmental.com

AK: And willowenvironmental.com if you want to do some environmental testing. Is it just Connecticut or is it other states?

MD: No, New York and Connecticut.

AK: There you go. You got a plug for Willow as well. Thanks guys.

MD: Thanks.

PD: Thank you.